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		<title>By: Si</title>
		<link>http://www.frostnova.net/archives/telstra-with-a-different-name.html/comment-page-1#comment-401</link>
		<dc:creator>Si</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Sep 2008 08:11:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>LOL</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LOL</p>
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		<title>By: astephens</title>
		<link>http://www.frostnova.net/archives/telstra-with-a-different-name.html/comment-page-1#comment-397</link>
		<dc:creator>astephens</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Sep 2008 11:02:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My second bill was exactly as I expected it would be. Optus still suck, but at least I am being charged the agreed amount for the pleasure of having zero reception.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My second bill was exactly as I expected it would be. Optus still suck, but at least I am being charged the agreed amount for the pleasure of having zero reception.</p>
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		<title>By: Si</title>
		<link>http://www.frostnova.net/archives/telstra-with-a-different-name.html/comment-page-1#comment-396</link>
		<dc:creator>Si</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Sep 2008 03:14:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Aaaaaand I just got my next bill. $55.99</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Aaaaaand I just got my next bill. $55.99</p>
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		<title>By: Si</title>
		<link>http://www.frostnova.net/archives/telstra-with-a-different-name.html/comment-page-1#comment-384</link>
		<dc:creator>Si</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Sep 2008 02:03:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>astephens you were right. This is what they&#039;ve done. 

Period 05 Aug - 21 Aug (0.548 months)
Billed pro-rata for 17 days with included credit REDUCED proportionately from $300 to $149.56. 

Period 22 Aug - 21 Sep (1 month)
Billed full amount for 1 month ($49  + $7) 

Call #1: 

&quot;I was NOT informed that the included value would be reduced to $150 at ANY stage during my application. So I have gone over the cap because I was using my phone thinking I have $300 worth of calls when I only had $150 worth of credit.&quot; Repeated several times etc. etc.

Action: $14.16 charges above cap removed from bill. w00t. 

Expected bill after call #1:
Pro-rata period: 49 * 0.548 = $26.85
Full-month: 49 + 7 = $56
Total expected: $82.85

Actual bill after call #1:
104.70 - 14.16 = $90.54

Call #2:

&quot;Can you see these entries titled &quot;MobileBrowsingStarter&quot; on my bill? You are charging me extra for data access when the iPhone $49 plan has to include 250MB data access. You can NOT charge me extra for this, it MUST be included in the plan.&quot;

Optus lady: &quot;Oh yes, we&#039;re sorry. It appears the MobileBrowsingStarter pack was added to your account in error. I have removed these charges.&quot;

Action:
2.72 + 4.95 = $7.67 removed from bill

Expected bill after call #2:
90.54 - 7.67 = $82.87

Actual bill after call #2:
104.70 - 14.16 - 7.67 = $82.87

Happy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>astephens you were right. This is what they&#8217;ve done. </p>
<p>Period 05 Aug &#8211; 21 Aug (0.548 months)<br />
Billed pro-rata for 17 days with included credit REDUCED proportionately from $300 to $149.56. </p>
<p>Period 22 Aug &#8211; 21 Sep (1 month)<br />
Billed full amount for 1 month ($49  + $7) </p>
<p>Call #1: </p>
<p>&#8220;I was NOT informed that the included value would be reduced to $150 at ANY stage during my application. So I have gone over the cap because I was using my phone thinking I have $300 worth of calls when I only had $150 worth of credit.&#8221; Repeated several times etc. etc.</p>
<p>Action: $14.16 charges above cap removed from bill. w00t. </p>
<p>Expected bill after call #1:<br />
Pro-rata period: 49 * 0.548 = $26.85<br />
Full-month: 49 + 7 = $56<br />
Total expected: $82.85</p>
<p>Actual bill after call #1:<br />
104.70 &#8211; 14.16 = $90.54</p>
<p>Call #2:</p>
<p>&#8220;Can you see these entries titled &#8220;MobileBrowsingStarter&#8221; on my bill? You are charging me extra for data access when the iPhone $49 plan has to include 250MB data access. You can NOT charge me extra for this, it MUST be included in the plan.&#8221;</p>
<p>Optus lady: &#8220;Oh yes, we&#8217;re sorry. It appears the MobileBrowsingStarter pack was added to your account in error. I have removed these charges.&#8221;</p>
<p>Action:<br />
2.72 + 4.95 = $7.67 removed from bill</p>
<p>Expected bill after call #2:<br />
90.54 &#8211; 7.67 = $82.87</p>
<p>Actual bill after call #2:<br />
104.70 &#8211; 14.16 &#8211; 7.67 = $82.87</p>
<p>Happy.</p>
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		<title>By: Si</title>
		<link>http://www.frostnova.net/archives/telstra-with-a-different-name.html/comment-page-1#comment-377</link>
		<dc:creator>Si</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Aug 2008 07:49:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for all the input people. I found a couple of VERY interesting posts on Whirlpool forums.

http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/forum-replies.cfm?t=1027543

http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/forum-replies.cfm?t=1021036</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for all the input people. I found a couple of VERY interesting posts on Whirlpool forums.</p>
<p><a href="http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/forum-replies.cfm?t=1027543" rel="nofollow">http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/forum-replies.cfm?t=1027543</a></p>
<p><a href="http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/forum-replies.cfm?t=1021036" rel="nofollow">http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/forum-replies.cfm?t=1021036</a></p>
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		<title>By: D</title>
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		<dc:creator>D</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Aug 2008 16:03:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It seems that a lot of phonebills are a nightmare to understand.  When we switched our plan with optus from Cable+phone to a newer cable plan the next bill was impossible to work out due to different caps, free stuff etc.  I think it was right...but I couldn&#039;t be sure (and I supposedly love numbers).  Same kind of thing when we cancelled iinet, working out all the different bills, refunds etc is next to impossible.  Surely there is an easier system!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It seems that a lot of phonebills are a nightmare to understand.  When we switched our plan with optus from Cable+phone to a newer cable plan the next bill was impossible to work out due to different caps, free stuff etc.  I think it was right&#8230;but I couldn&#8217;t be sure (and I supposedly love numbers).  Same kind of thing when we cancelled iinet, working out all the different bills, refunds etc is next to impossible.  Surely there is an easier system!</p>
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		<title>By: astephens</title>
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		<dc:creator>astephens</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Aug 2008 08:28:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think you&#039;ll find that you have been charged for the month that you have already had the iPhone plus the next month in advance. I can&#039;t really understand my bill either but I am assuming that it is a good approximation of what I should be billed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think you&#8217;ll find that you have been charged for the month that you have already had the iPhone plus the next month in advance. I can&#8217;t really understand my bill either but I am assuming that it is a good approximation of what I should be billed.</p>
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		<title>By: Si</title>
		<link>http://www.frostnova.net/archives/telstra-with-a-different-name.html/comment-page-1#comment-374</link>
		<dc:creator>Si</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Aug 2008 11:56:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, it would seem that Optus are just as bad as Telstra in their general incompetence. Only as recently as this weekend I was speaking to relatives of mine who had to ring up Telstra to get over $300 worth of mistaken charges removed from their bill. At least after several phone calls and being handballed around 5 different departments, they were successful.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, it would seem that Optus are just as bad as Telstra in their general incompetence. Only as recently as this weekend I was speaking to relatives of mine who had to ring up Telstra to get over $300 worth of mistaken charges removed from their bill. At least after several phone calls and being handballed around 5 different departments, they were successful.</p>
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		<title>By: Zac</title>
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		<dc:creator>Zac</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Aug 2008 11:17:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You seem to be implying that Telstra do that kind of stuff too. (?)   I wouldn&#039;t know.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You seem to be implying that Telstra do that kind of stuff too. (?)   I wouldn&#8217;t know.</p>
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